stories_songs ([info]stories_songs) wrote,
@ 2008-04-08 21:43:00
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Random quote from the Bible that I like:

Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But desire fulfilled is a tree of life.

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[info]what_if
2008-04-09 12:37 pm UTC (link)
Here's another one you might like:

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.
--Ezekiel 25:17.

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[info]stories_songs
2008-04-09 05:41 pm UTC (link)
I like that. With some passages from the Bible like that one from Ezekiel, where there is this angry, righteous power that threatens to smite down the evil people who threaten the good ones, it makes me think. People must have needed to know that justice would be dealt out to criminals and other bad people somehow. Now, reading that, it's a little scary, but maybe back in the day it wasn't as threatening sounding. There's also the thing the Bible does with black and white, good and bad, absolute wrong and right that doesn't sit well with me, but there are plenty of really beautiful passages that can be appreciated just for their language and literary value. I agree with the sentiment of Ezekiel 25:17 but not the "enforcer" that's looming off to the side.

With the quote I found, something about that rings true. Hope deferred, makes the heart sick. I've felt that before a lot... when I decide not to be positive or hopeful, I get a stomach ache. And then the tree of life and desire, that's such a nice thing to imagine. What does desire look like? How would you paint desire if you could? What is the tree of life? How is life a tree?

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[info]what_if
2008-04-10 12:10 am UTC (link)
Actually it's the only quote from the bible I know, as it was used in Pulp Fiction, which you must not have seen... yet. We should remedy that.

I like the hope deferred as well, and it's true, w/o hope all is lost.

Desire is a woman. Bare skin... a neck, shoulder, a skirt, a smile, a twinkle. Women define desire in my book :)

As for the tree part, I look at this way: achieving something takes hard work and time. Having a full-grown tree takes time and hard work, but once grown it's a magnificent and fruitful thing... Success takes hard work, but is grand... just how I took it with all my slants and biases.

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[info]stories_songs
2008-04-10 04:06 pm UTC (link)
Your idea of desire is definitely one of mine, too (not in a lesbian way, but because it's just this culturally projected & accepted notion of sex as something really great and beautiful), but I also think desire is the euphoria and longing that you feel outside. Rain on your skin and the dark clouds backlit by the sun, or mornings on a secluded beach, or the high blue sky you can see and feel all the way down to your toes. Corny... but a line from the book White Noise always comes to me when I experience this "outside happiness": "I can get high just going for a walk in the woods."

A tree is solid once it reaches maturity but it can take years for it get there. Until then, it's thin and prone to disease, being knocked over by the wind, etc. I also think of trees as complex life forms unto themselves, they are hosts for other animals and plants, they take their nutrients from the earth and waste gases in the air, and produce oxygen for everyone else... dynamic things

Nope, I haven't seen Pulp Fiction yet, just clips...

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[info]what_if
2008-04-10 10:42 pm UTC (link)
That's on your must see list.

And I can get high looking at art, women, being outside, having a great conversation, laughing, but doing those things makes me happy, but when I'm outside I just feel contented... not desirous, but being around a woman, that is my definition of desire. I don't crave cigarettes, heroin, or the bottle, but women, that is a craving that is desire.

Dreams/desires can be fragile things, just like the tree, but achievement once done, can't be taken away from you, the achievement itself might crumble like Colussus, but you still did it.

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